presidential nominee paul ryan on the other side have both been posted online tonight in typical, late in the campaign, october surprise, boy do we have a bomb shell fashion. first on the right at the tucker carlson website, the right wing sirens blaring excitement tonight is for the same kind of tape they have tried to make bomb shells out of the last three times we have gone through this in the election cycle. over and over and over again, the right has tried to make huge news not out of something president obama has done as president but out after a big unveiling, a big, giant, coordinated round of attention for something from president obama's supposedly secret past. this spring it was the glen beck website dousing themselves in gasoline and pulling the fire alarm over video of president obama speaking as a law student at harvard. video at a press conference where obama says nothing news worthy. that was explosive tape, not at all. last month it was the drudge report, which means the romney campaign, it was them again dousing themselves in gasoline and pulling the fire alarm as what was h

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or die. >> you just heard paul ryan say that romney will offer the country a clear choice of two different economic futures. is that what romney needs to do wednesday? is that enough? >> well, i think it would be good to just win the debate. that's my advice to governor romney and it's time to begin panicking a little bit. >> time to begin panicking? but don't worry, governor romney has a solution. zingers. the "new york times" reports that mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing since august. zingers? mr. romney doesn't need zingers. he needs new ideas. he needs a new campaign. truth be told, he needs a new candidate. after all, the guy he's been debating all along has been himself on health care. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. of course, there are a number of things that i like in health care reform. >> well, of course. i'm going to repeal obama care. i've said that on the campaign trail. i think every single day obama care must be re

point we've been making in this campaign. >> now paul ryan has his own secret tape about the 30% who want welfare. >>> and eric cantor and the tea party strutted into washington two years ago pushing radical ideas. now they're hiding from their far right agenda. too bad we won't let them. >>> and this race has been the tale of two mitts, but only can show up for tomorrow night's debate. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. snoou. >>> mitt romney has been preparing for the debate by debating a republican senator, who's playing the part of president obama. yeah. meanwhile, president obama has been preparing for romney by debating an atm machine. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> have you checked us out on facebook? the "politicsnation" nation conversation is going

people he's ever proposed to, starting with paul ryan. >> first of all, 47% mitt acknowledges himself that was an inarticulate way of describing how we're worried in that stagnant obama economy more people are becoming dependent on economy. >> what could be better for the emotional stability of a presidential candidate than your running mate calling you inarticulate? never mind. paul ryan is the one key numbers guy. so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> all right. you know what, mitt? you better put paul ryan away somewhere. send him to a sports bar somewhere in ohio. at least he can have a few beers with voters. he's got that going for him. who

doing these days, if you notice, they're not talking anymore more about what paul ryan and governor romney are really for. they're spending an awful lot of time telling you what we, barack obama and joe biden are against and what we've done. and they just attack everything. >> the republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan also has a very busy day. congressman ryan is going to have a rally in ohio in just a couple of hours. more on that in just a moment. this morning, though, he was in derry, new hampshire. >> all these promises were made in the idea of hope and change. and people, it sounded pretty good. but when the rhetoric went aside and the time to act occurred, the ideas are the old ideas that have failed time and again. >> and as we speak, former senator rick santorum is also in ohio, getting ready to stomp for the romney campaign. he is appearing with ohio republican congressman bill johnson who is in a tough reelection race. more on all of this throughout the next hour. but we start -- we start in the buckeye state where paul ryan has the campaign event that we just m

washington. let me start with mr. romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan if the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for getting rid of medicare. he acts like ryan has no hold on him, but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out, that romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is ryan. we all know that politics makes strange bedfellows but the word is out this pair, romney and ryan, are sleeping in separate rooms. i'm joined by msnbc political an

it happened. let's not forget. paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost money that was not paid for. paul ryan voted for it. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, we will show you why they are doing it and crazyed td aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he was taught a lesson said about the morality of his conduct during the vietnam period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is coming up. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! if you'd try it, you'd know. she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ oh, hey alex. just picking up some, broch

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to both of you. toure we have been talking about sean hannity's world exclusive with paul ryan and mitt romney last night but what about the bombshell videos that mr. hannity had. why didn't he even mention them last night? >> well, mitt romney surely doesn't want to have anything to do. he wants his fingerprints completely off of those. so surely they said, hey, don't bring that up. that stuff is ugly. we've already got in enough trouble for that. we don't want to have anything to do with that. of course, they leave that all on the side. they have enough trouble with their own secret videos that they're still struggling with. don't let anybody tell you the 47% video is not having an effect. it is absolutely having an affect on this election, and anything that romney says after that to try to say i am caring, i care about the 100%, we saw what you really said and what you really meant. we know who you really are. so we don't have to ask anymore. we have the answer. >> okay, goldie, we have conspiracy theories on the polls, conspiracy theories on the unemployment number. let's not f

his running mate paul ryan voted for, he implied that would ht suicide prevention programs for veterans even though the v.a. would be exempt from that, so i'm not sure he even understood what it was he was talking about. atst h tr least veterans got a mention from him. even if it didn't make sense in policy terms. you do know that defense and veteransre two different -- at some point it should be possible with 40 days left t say veterans have to be more than ju an applause ne. u t gose t r a photo op like the decommissioned battleship you used as a backdrop when you introduced paul ryan inexplicably in front of a battleship, another time when you didn mention the war. even if you're not willing to talk a tarar th y would be taking over, veterans are not a hypothetical construct. the way they're treated is not an esoteric consequence of how we feel about them as a nation or how much military spending we have which is how mitt romney described it today. 40 days out from the election th the israeli prime minister drawing an actual redline on a wicoyo acm style bomb at the united n

policy. >> i think that paul ryan is right, i think the security apparatus, at least as regards the middle east, the intelligence apparatus, at least as regards to the middle east in team obama as an administration, i think it's broken down. why the heck would they send susan rice around to fife news stations? what point is there? even if she had half the information or if she had all the information, it's all politics now and it looks like the professional operation, peter king, i give you the last word on this, has broken down. >> it has, the whole intelligence operation, what susan rice did, what the justice department was distort the information they had been given. it would take a way from the issue that that consulate was not properly protected. that should have been protected much more strongly than it was. the failure by the administration, but it's reflective as vanessa williams said, he's talking about iraq, he's talking about iran, he's talking about syria and libya. and our closest ally, israel. >> has the security apparatus broken down elsewhere? that is an important qu

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who was playing the part of vice president joe biden in paul ryan's practice sessions for the vice presidential debate next week. seriously. not kidding. seriously. want to know what happened? that's next. >>> the next debate is the vice presidential debate between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. it is set for next thursday. vice president biden's debate practice sessions he's got democratic congressman chris van hollen of maryland playing the role of paul ryan for the purpose of practice. in mr. ryan's debate practices the role of vice president joe biden is being played by celebrated conservative attorney and former george w. bush solicitor general ted olson. ted olson is not your average former bush administration official. he is the former bush administration official who's been leading the legal effort to overturn california's ban on gay marriage and maybe every state's ban on gay marriage. he is very, very, very, very conservative. but he is on the pro gay side of this marriage fight. today at nyu's law school i got a chance to interview ted olson and his

. the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the truth to put it gently. the obama

be intentional. john, this is how romney's running mate paul ryan addressed the 47% comment captured in that secret video yesterday. take a listen. >> is there any way possible that this 47% can pay a nominal fee or something so they feel that they have small ownership in the government and maybe they won't take all the handouts so readily? >> i've got an idea. let's help them get a job so they're good paycheck so they're good taxpayers. >> so, paul ryan says 89-year-old great grandmothers, currently using benefits, should go and get a job. >> it's not just the grandmothers and veterans. the working poor, who are given something called the earned income tax -- >> who are actually employed -- >> he knows this. so, this is really shameful. paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give

house while campaigning in iowa. paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe biden. the middle class has been buried the last four years which is why we need a change in november, #can'tafford4more. >>> later that today in asheville, north carolina vice president biden clarified that the middle class was buried by the policies that romney and ryan supported. see if you're convinced by that recovery. >>> also yesterday, a video was relesioned by the daily caller, featuring then senator barack obama speaking to a group of african-american religious leaders in 2007. they are billing the video as a bombshell labelling it obama's other race speech. the vi

deportation, supporting the paul ryan budget, calling it marvelous, voucher rising medicare. these are wildly unpopular policies that he has stood for and he may not be willing but the democrats are happy to fill in those detail and it's his ideas at the core. >> aside from the politics and the polls -- and we'll go through some of those numbers, i think that when americans hear the choices of the perspective and world view, the big picture view of each candidate, they begin making basic decisions. the reason that 47% tape i think was so powerful against romney is it gave a world view of how he sees the country. >> right. >> and i think that's why we started seeing a whole shift in these polls. >> yeah, i think that's right, reverend. the mask thing by itself is not just positive because we have to remember that there were more george w. bush masks sold in 2000 and al gore actually won that election. so i'm not sure that we can be entirely sure there but it is one kernel there and that's where people are actually focused the most because they are seeing the ads, they are seeing the candidates

, paul ryan and mitt romney taking the stage for the first time since last night's debate. that, for most accounts, was a big win for their campaign. was it enough to change the dynamic of the race 33 days before the election? let's go to jim acosta at the rally in fishersville, virginia. trace adkins, i guess, is going to perform there. they're getting ready for a big, big blowout. >> reporter: that's right, erin. they are blowing this day up. you could say this is a #winningday for the romney campaign. trace adkins is on stage. and we saw the evidence of this all day long from the gop nominee, when he got on board his campaign plane earlier this morning. he was already cruising at a higher altitude, erin, chatting up his campaign staff. there was a smile on his face. and, honestly, erin, i've been covering this campaign for a year and a half. this was one of the happiest days that i've seen on the part of this campaign and its staff for some time. but you could tell that things were starting to change during the day, as the president was starting to mount that new offensive, going

today from paul ryan. >> we have had some missteps. but at the end of the day, the choice is really clear. and we're giving people a very clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobile and a dynamic economy. you've got the president basically promising four more years like the last four years. and here and there. we have not been able to frame that choice clearly. by the end of the day, people are not going to understand exactly what they have got. >> a voluntary campaign senior advisor is seeking to clarify the president's plan even after the currency of the economy. >> the president's not ga qualifiesed. we have now created 5 million jobs, we're net positive in terms of jobs created. but whole is huge, and we have to create an commit in which the middle class has a chance. we're not going to get back there by getting back to the same policies we have had before. >> the des moines register poll shows a four-point lead in ohio. in ohio the president is currently ahead in -- >>> president obama boarded air force one a short time ago and is now head

. >> paul ryan is in new hampshire today. the republican vice presidential nominee will hold a rally in the city of derry in just a few hours. meanwhile, vice president biden is in the battleground state of florida. he's going to attend a campaign event in fort myers this morning. on friday he met with seniors at a retirement village in boca raton. >> governor romney's plan goes into effect it can mean that everyone, every one of you, would be paying more on -- taxes on your social security. >> michelle obama is encouraging young voters to get to the polls. like right now. the first lady spoke to college students in iowa friday, urging them to go into nearby early voting booths to cast their ballots. >> you got a whole month to make it happen. a whole month to vote! as i tell my children, don't procrastinate. no procrastination. make it happen. do it today. >> joining me now, political reporter for "the washington post" felicia somnez and white house correspondent for the hill, amy barnes. good morning. >> good morning. >> so, amy, i'm going to start with you. on libya, earlier this

looking at twiter, paul ryan produced this picture of him watching the debate. let's hear next from angela and los angeles. >> somebody asked why obama did not attack mitt romney -- i do not believe it is about that. i believe it was about connecting with people. >> next up is harriet. >> i really enjoyed the debate. i think mitt romney did a good job. i love that he is going to put government back into the governor's hands and work with everybody to get good health care for those with pre-existing conditions and for people who cannot afford it. thank you for taking my call. >> on facebook -- next up from kentucky, independent, you are on the austin. >> i agree that the debate was not anything very special. romney was being a little ridiculous constantly interrupting obama. over all, not very much of a great debate. we will see how it goes. >> next up is delores' from rhode island, she is a democrat there. >> i thought that obama did better. detailing exactly the tax cuts that need to be in place again to create the jobs. i just remember over the past several years filibuster's that